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Hi. I'm Pat and I'm a Ketogenic: The High Information Diet About A Low Carb Lifestyle 03/17/2011
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Let me start by asking you a couple of questions.

Let's start with this one:

What happens if you permanently take all protein out of your diet?

Answer: You die.

Simple enough.

Here's another one:

What happens if you permanently take all fat out of your diet?

Answer: You die.

Hmm.

Just a few more:

What happens if you permanently take all carbohydrates out of your diet?

Answer: You don't die...

That's interesting...

Last one, I promise:

What adjective will you see in front of the word "fat" and "amino acids", that you never see in front of the word "carb"?

Answer: "essential".

Fact: Never has there been, and never will there be such a thing as an "essential carb".

So what is a ketogenic diet?

A ketogenic diet is when an individual maintains a state of ketosis.

To put it simply, a state of ketosis is when the body predominantly relies on fat (ketones), rather than carbs(glucose) for energy production. This is accomplished through restricting carbohydrate consumption.

But I Want My Carbs Damnit!

Of course you do.

So do I.

But what do you want more; Carbs or six pack abs year round? A breakfast of lemon cakes and sugar cookies, or healthy cholesterol levels?

For me; I much prefer the long term satisfaction I receive from looking and feeling good, than the short lived instant gratification I get from porking out on Poptarts and Doritos.

Isn't A Calorie Just A Calorie?

If you truly believe this, then I'm sure you won't mind performing a little experiment for me...

For one year, I want you to eat nothing but oreo cookies and cake frosting. Hell, you can even dip your oreo cookies in the cake frosting if you want. Just be sure to keep your calories at or below maintenance.

Then give me a call when you're diabetic and your toes are falling off, and let me know how that's workin out for ya.

Will you lose weight if you restrict calories? The law of thermodynamics has us believe that's true. And in terms of sheer weight, I believe there is some truth to that.

But what is weight?

Weight is simply the force you exert on the earth due to gravity. And as far as I'm concerned, weight is irrelevant.

Who would you rather be:

A guy who is 185lbs at 7% bodyfat or a guy who is 150lbs at 20% bodyfat?

If you care only about weight, then you'd pick the second option. But in any mirror and through any normal person's eyes, the first option will always look a lot heck of a lot better.

Same thing goes for females...

A female who weighs in at 135lbs but only has 10% bodyfat will always look and feel better than a female who is 120lbs at 24% bodyfat.

Scales lie. Mirrors don't.

And in terms of body composition, a calorie is certainly not just a calorie.

Let's break this down even further...

When you eat carbohydrates you will inevitably raise blood glucose levels. When blood glucose levels rise, insulin is released. Insulin is an incredibly potent anabolic hormone, and is the main inhibitor of lipolysis which is the breakdown of stored fat. In order for glucagon to be released, which is a catabolic hormone responsible for breaking down stored fat to be used as energy, blood glucose levels must be substantially decreased. Insulin and glucagon are like day and night; they can not co-exist.

What I'm saying is that being fat is not just about eating to many calories. It's more about having continuously elevated levels of insulin. In the long term, this is known as hyperinsulinism, and is one of the main causes of obesity and insulin resistance. Controlling insulin levels in the long run is the golden ticket to staying lean, and there is no better way to control insulin levels than by following a high fat ketogenic diet.

Ok, so far this makes sense...So how do you do it?

Getting into a ketogenic state is not easy for a lot of people. This is because of the dreaded adaptation that must take place; and unfortunately, this adaptation period can be longer for some than others.

So realize that going into this, you either have to be fully committed or it won't work. This is not a yo-yo diet. This is a lifestyle. There is no point suffering through three days of an incredibly low carb diet trying to get into a state of ketosis, to only ruin it by binging on a bag of peanut M&M's and cinnamon raisin bagels; as this will only set you right back to square one.

You see, the adaptation period can be quite painful for some, because it is not only your body that must switch over from primarily burning glucose for fuel to using ketones, but your brain as well! So expect to not feel your greatest the first couple days ( for me it wasn't all that bad, I just felt a little lightheaded and had an odd craving for baby corn?...), but realize this is normal and it will not last forever. I got through it, and so can you! Because once you have reached ketosis, you will feel fantastic! You're energy levels will be consistent throughout the day and you will also notice that your hunger will also stay in check. You just have to suck it up and rough it out for a few days that's all...

Now it's time to answer the big questions... What to eat?

The answer is quite simple. You will be eating a lot of...prep yourself, this may scare you...FAT! That's right, not a low carb/high protein, but a low carb/high fat diet is what is going to lead to the most substantial amount of fat loss.

Fat is not the enemy. It never has been. Yet fat has un-rightfully received one of the worst reputations in nutritional history. Well, it's time to wipe that slate clean. Carbs are the true enemy and they must be destroyed.

Here is Dr. Greg Ellis. He is going to tell you that fat is not bad for you and why you should not just eat a high protein diet. I suggest you listen to him.
Thank you Dr. Ellis.

Now I personally like to keep my fat around 50-60% of my calorie intake. This has worked best for me. Obviously everyone is a little different, so experiment with the ratios and see what works best for you. Protein is around 30-40% and carbs are around 10-15%

Here is what I eat a lot of:

Extra-Virgin Olive Oil-EVOO
Nuts and Seeds
Cheese of all shapes and sizes
Natural and preferably organic peanut and almond butter
Fish of all varieties
Organic eggs (these are always organic for me as I often eat them raw)
Poultry
Pork
Fibrous Veggies
Red meat of all varieties (preferably organic)
Avocados
Whole Raw Milk

By no means is this list exclusive.

The Benefits of a Low Carb Lifestyle

Alright, alright, already!

I know I've kept you in suspense long enough.

And I know! What would this post be without one of my famous, semi-awkward/semi-nude pics of myself?
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That is the number one reason that I opt for a low carb lifestyle. As it is the only way of eating that has allowed me to maintain a single digit body fat percentage year round, while still being able to make substantial strength and performance gains.

But pleasing aesthetics are only a small part of the many benefits to be had from following a low carb lifestyle.

Now I just got done writing a 15 page research paper on the federal reserve, so the last thing I want to do is list a bunch of sources again. So I'm leaving it up to you to verify my claims for yourself. But I am telling you, the studies are out there, I have thoroughly read many of them, and you can certainly find them if you try. But for me, the most important experiment ever undertaken was my own, which was conducted upon myself. I know what benefits a low carb lifestyle has brought to me and they simply can not be argued.

However, here is the link to one study that proves the effectiveness of a low-carb diet over a low-fat diet http://www.annals.org/content/140/10/769.short

Other benefits of a high fat, low carb lifestyle include:

1. Decreased serum triglyceride levels
2. Increase in good cholesterol, decrease in bad cholesterol
3. Increased levels of testosterone
4. Increased insulin sensitivity
5. Consistent energy levels throughout the day
6. The right to eat bacon, and probably the most important reason...
7. You don't have to worry about your toes falling off!

So you see, fat is not the enemy. It never has been. Fat is not what makes you fat. Carbs are what make you fat.

I'm sticking to a low carb lifestyle because I know it works, and it works damn well

And I'm keeping my toes too damnit!


Questions? Comments? Rebuttals? Post them in the comment section! Just keep it cool.
 


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zach
03/17/2011 14:17

do you ever have a carb up?

I cycled my carbs for a while after reading tom vernutos book and it worked quite well. I have never gone long term low carb tho

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Big Pete
03/17/2011 14:18

I try to diet this way, but I always end up falling off the bandwagon. At college, carbs are everywhere! On a meal plan, it is about the only thing to eat. Help me out man!

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John
03/17/2011 14:56

"Big" Pete is right, it is way to hard to follow a low carb diet at college, or any sort of a healthy diet for that matter. I put on 20lbs during my college years. Beer and pizza will do that to you

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Big Pete
03/17/2011 15:01

John--I hear you man, food prep here is all about the bottom dollar and unfortunately, like sex, carbs sell. Don't get me wrong, I eat omlettes and salads and shit here, but they are not always availible. I have no vehicle also, so trips to the store are a real rarity because it takes me almost an hour and a half to get there on public transport.

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03/17/2011 21:53

A great post. I'll share this as a useful primer...

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Terry
03/18/2011 00:38

What is your take on Greek yogurt and oatmeal? Do you put those in your diet as well? Is the cheese you eat low fat?
Thanks

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Pat
03/18/2011 04:02

Hey Terry, you may be able to get away with plain greek yogurt on occasion if you are following a ketogenic diet; oatmeal however is probably not a good idea if you want to maintain a ketogenic state.

The cheese I eat is not low fat, I try to eat cheese that is as minimally processed as possible. I try to opt for cheese that is made from whole raw milk as well

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Pat
03/18/2011 04:15

Thanks atc!

@ Big Pete - Notorious college food may make it difficult to follow a ketogenic diet, but it is certainly still possible. I did however, find it much easier to eat the way I wanted once I dropped my college meal plan and just started buying my own food. I realize this may not financially be an option for you, but I'm sure if you look hard enough than you will will be able to find plenty of foods there that fit into a ketogenic lifestyle.

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Tim
03/18/2011 06:39

Whats the rule on fruit?

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andrea
03/18/2011 08:47

While I agree that a ketogenic diet is beneficial, I would just like to point out the flaw in your female standard. Women below 12% bodyfat tend to lose bone mass and suffer many lifelong ill effects. Granted, some women can go under 12% and be ok, but that is the exception.

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05/01/2012 06:36

if you want to make your body toned then there is a need to burn the fat inside the body.

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Terry
03/18/2011 13:29

Your are fortunate to get raw milk where you live. In FL it is sold for "pet purposes only" and difficult to obtain. Any substitute suggestions?

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John R.
03/19/2011 02:11

So vegetarians and Vegans will die from lack of protein?

Where did you get your vast education and experience of nutrition from? The internet? Experiments on yourself?

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Terry
03/19/2011 03:42

John R,

In defense of Pat, never met him by the way, I think it is evident his "experiment" is working. Have you seen the pics of him? Have you even tried half of a workout of his? I'd rather follow evidence that speaks volumes than some Ivory Tower,internet tuff guy fat ass....

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Pat
03/19/2011 07:14

John, can you please show me where I said you would die from a lack of protein if you are a vegan or vegetarian? All I said, is if you completely take ALL protein out of your diet, then you will die. If you do not believe me, try it...

You can get the amino acids you need on a vegan and vegetarian diet...although you may have certain deficiencies and I do not feel this is the best or healthiest way to do it. But you certainly won't die.

For ethical reasons I have no problem with a vegan or vegetarian diet, I choose to eat as organically and ethically as possible.

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Pat
03/19/2011 07:17

Terry, I had a friend who lived in Florida for a while and he actually drank the raw milk for "pet purposes" and said he never had a problem with it. If that were my only option, I'd go for it, but I'll leave that one up to you though.

And thank you for your kind words Terry, much appreciated

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Josh Romani
03/20/2011 06:28

And let me tell you, that was the most delicious pet food i have ever drank

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John R.
03/20/2011 15:35

Pat,

The point to my statement (which in your reply, you contradict yourself in) was what scientific research/study, or empirical proof do you have to support this claim?

For that matter where is any of the research to support the rest of the information you provide. Clearly, these ideas are not your own. Without this your statements hold no real merit or credibility. Which brings me to my initial question of what amount of education and experience do you have in nutrition and it's prescription? Do you have any kind of formal education or accreditation in any health-related field?

Terry,

If you want to believe his "experiments" and "workouts" are proof of success, Realize that these are performed by an what appears to be an extremely active, 20-something year old, in a peak state of metabolism, muscle adaptation, and hormonal growth factors, that is using extreme means to achieve these long lasting results, then by all means follow blindly.

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Terry Schurman
03/21/2011 09:46

I will take my "chances" and follow blindly. Do you think I was born yesterday? This "experiment" has far less harm than anything I've done in the past. Stick with lifting and eating your books....

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Pat
03/21/2011 17:43

John,

Where have I contradicted myself?

Do you want empirical evidence and studies done on the effects of a ketogenic diet? There have been many, many studies conducted on the effects of following a low carb diet, especially for people who suffer from epilepsy. I can certainly provide you with a list of sources and references if you really want, but I'd rather not spend the time when you can easily go about finding them yourself.

Credibility and merit? You come in here with your criticism yet offer no evidence or proof that I am wrong! The pot calling the kettle black perhaps?

Listen, I don't want anybody to just believe everything I say. I encourage everyone who reads my blog to question everything I say. I have nothing to hide here, I share with you all what I believe and know to be true. But don't come in here and make statements that are blatantly false and without any backing whatsoever.

Where did I ever say a vegan or vegetarian will die from lack of protein?

I didnt.

Where did I ever say these ideas were my own?

I didn't.

ketogenic dieting has been around for ages!

When you come back with proof/evidence that I am wrong or in some way incorrect, then I will return the favor and provide you with as much empirical evidence as you could ever want.

Mine and others results from following a ketogenic diet speak volumes, and I have come to realize a long time ago that what you learn through experience is far my valuable and practical then what you learn in a class room.

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Jessica
03/21/2011 17:57

Clearly someone hasn't taken the time to look around let alone read anything that is of fully creditable, sound substance on this website...

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Marcus
03/22/2011 00:38

Nice that keto works for you. Nice read too. For me keto diet results in me going into trainwreck mode. I get fat, make no progress in the gym, etc.

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Pat
03/22/2011 03:23

Hey Marcus thanks for you're kind words. What about keto makes you get into trainwreck mode?

From my experience it is the that people are often unable to push through the initial adaptation. Surely during the first couple for days (possibly even week or two) going completely cold turkey on carbs is going to make you feel pretty terrible. Like I said, for me it was a feeling of lightheadedness, and some minor headaches, but for others its much worse.

That is why I emphasize keto as a lifestyle and not a diet, because the the commitment and discipline involved if you actually want to feel good on it and make progress is quite substantial.

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Marcus
03/22/2011 11:21

I stayed on a maximum of 30g carbs / day for about 3 months. Not sure if that was long enough to adapt. Things I noticed was that I was very worn out from my normal weekly training, and I also put on some lbs or five of new fat tissue.

The fat gain I think is mostly related to consuming more calories / day compared to when I was doing a more carb-based diet. It is just too easy for me to pop an extra 1000kcal / day when going just fats and protein.

The training results I dunno.. my rate of recovery went down a lot, also my sleeping was very weak. On a good day I got 5 hrs of sleep, compared to 8-9 while on carbs. After three months of ~4hrs of sleep / day I decided to up my carb intake and now everything is back to normal.. just need to burn off the fat I put on :)

As for discipline I'm not sure how it requires any more discipline than any other lifestyle. Just cap carb intake.. its no worries. For me I guess I would actually have to put some discipline on the eating so I didn't consume all those extra calories.. don't think this would cure my sleeping woes though.

These sleeping problems I also have when I do the Rapid Fat Loss 2week cat-1 stints. Ketosis hits and then I know there is no proper sleeping for me until the refeed.

Diet or lifestyle ketosis is not something that works well for me.

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Pat
03/22/2011 11:32

3 months is more than enough time to adapt especially if you were limiting carbs to less than 30% a day...that is unless you were refeeding every couple of days or so, then I can see how such problems would arise.

I mention the discipline aspect of it because of the addiction that many people seem to have with carbs; specifically sugars. If you were able to kick carbs that easily than you are surely not one of those people.

Everyone is different, and there is no end all be all diet or lifestyle for anyone. Its great that you gave it a shot and figured out it wasnt for you, rather than disregarding it from the start. Good luck with all your future training!

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Jason
03/23/2011 20:24

John R=pwned

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Craig
03/24/2011 03:14

Nice posting Pat and i am a firm believer in this dietary approach. However, over the past few years I have become aware of the need to balance the alkalinity in our bodies. There are now numerous studies and publications which support the fact that an overly acidic environment in the body leads to amongst other things disease and at worst cancerous cells.
With such heavy reliance on eggs, meat, etc., the alkaline state of the body required for cell metabolism becomes seriously out of whack.
Whilst the goal of single digit fat percentage may be achieved that doesnt automatically mean the internal body is healthy or in balance.
Perhaps, you have some comments to make on the inclusion of fruits and non starchy veggies in one's diet?
:O)

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Pat Flynn
03/24/2011 14:19

Craig here is an excerpt from an article that my good friend and colleague Brian Petty RKC wrote a while back that clears up a lot of the confusion about the alkaline balance in our bodies when following a ketogenic diet.

"2. myth: Ketogenic diets are unsafe/ketones are toxic.

Ketogenic diets are very safe. This common objection stems from confusion between dietary ketosis and diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA). These are two distinctly different conditions. DKA is a result of insufficient insulin and is characterized by high blood sugar and ketones. This results in a loss of fluid through urine as the body tries to get rid of excess blood sugar and ketones. The decrease in blood volume causes an increase in blood acidity, which interferes with many biological functions. Dietary ketosis results in low insulin and blood sugar levels with moderate blood ketone levels. Blood pH remains within the normal range, so normal biological processes are not compromised."

If you wish to see the article in its entirety as well as the numerous sources and studies from which he got his information visit this link:

http://extonkettlebells.com/TheTruthAboutLowCarbdiets.aspx



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03/25/2011 19:25

The article is worth reading, I like it very much. I will keep your new articles.

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Mike
03/28/2011 23:25

I recently attempted a virtually no-carb diet for a couple of weeks. During that time I experienced dizziness, blurred vision and an overall lack of ability to focus. I workout with kettlebells/bodyweight 3-5 days a week and do brazilian jiu jitsu 2x/week. During the 2 weeks, I lost no weight. I was flat lined.

I simply added in 2-3 servings of whole grains and or fruit in a day and all those symptoms disappeared and I actually started to lose weight.

I am a 35 y/o male 5'10" and 188lb.

Any suggestions for what I might do or not do in proceeding in the future?

Also, how do you handle fruits on your ketogenic diet?

P.S. This is the best Kettlebell/Strength blog out there. Peace.

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Pat
03/30/2011 09:17

Hey Mike, sounds to me like you just had a very rough adaptation period. The blurred vision, lack of focus, and dizziness is all related to glucose levels, specifically in your brain. Your brain run on on either glucose of ketones. SO you opted to cut out all your carbs at once, which in turn significantly dropped your blood glucose levels and called all those side effects. It is not until you have reached a state of ketosis and when your brain starts using ketones for fuel that you will feel better and start losing weight.

People get discouraged because they don't initially lose weight when they strip out carbs, but that's because they haven't reached a state of ketosis yet. The adaptation into a ketogenic state is not easy.

I remember reading some of Steve Maxwell's stuff a while back(which I'm sure you'd be interested in Mike if you can find it), and he claims to have been fully ketogenic for almost 5 years; and during that time he was just incredibly shredded. He also noted that his jiu jitsu endurance improved dramatically.

As for fruits, I really don't eat any. I do have an occasional grapefruit and some other low glycemic fruits however. Once you reach a ketogenic state you can start to experiment and figure out what you can and can not get away with. Eating a grapefruit now and then had no negative effects on me, but I'm sure eating a few ripe bananas a day would.

But also realize that while I am an advocate of ketogenic dieting for maximum fat loss results, you can certainly have great results on a non-ketogenic diet as well. The paleo diet seems to work quite well for a lot of people, but I would attribute a lot of this success to it's low carb nature. A lot of people on the paleo diet actually end up ketogenic!

As always, thank you for your kind words Mike. This blog would not be what it is without great followers like yourself! Take care brother and keep training hard!

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Josh
04/01/2011 20:30

Great post Pat, thanks for sharing. I'm just starting out the Paleo diet, and this information has made it that much easier. I have a question if you don't mind answering it--After your body is in ketosis for a long time, how much would eating carbs mess with your ability to re-enter ketosis? Would I start from day one, and have to go through a couple low-energy days, or does the fact that I was previously in ketosis for a long stretch of time increase my ability to re-enter that state? I'm just wondering how one small cheat meal, or a social meal where I'd have/want to eat something with carbohydrates (pizza party or what-have-you), would effect the ketosis state of my body.

Cheers,
Josh

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Pat
04/02/2011 14:23

Hey Josh,

One thing that you will learn over time once you are ketogenic is what you can get away with and what you can't. Everyone is different so it's difficult for me to give you an exact answer. Dr. Ellis had some good information on this, I'll see if I can dig the link up and share it; but what he said is that for him, he has figured out that after being in a state of prolonged ketosis he can get away with having an occasional "cheat meal" like a having a couple bites of an ice cream cone I believe he put it. For me however, I never have a cheat meal so I haven't experimented too much as to what I can and can not get away with. I honestly never crave to have a cheat meal, which I think is one of the beautiful things about the ketogenic diet; is that it helps to eliminate that craving for carbs and sweets.

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manuel cabrera
04/10/2011 07:08

Hello Mr Flynn,would you be kind to post a one day sample of your Ketonic Diet. Thank You.

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Deanna
04/12/2011 07:56

I feel like after reading this over again, and reading all the comments this time, then I am much like your friend Marcus... Even though we both agreed that I'm in my head a lot lately and psyching myself out. I know you say scales lie and mirrors don't but now I'm thinking that the mirrors are changing and that I just look disgusting. I'm gonna keep with this a little longer before I switch back to my older diet. I agree when Marcus said it was because of the calorie intake, on my old diet I NEVER went a calorie over 1200, now between almonds and chicken and all that jazz I'm sure that I am soaring way above that number. (I understand the view on a calorie is a calorie) I just think for my body it either is a. not working. b. Working and I'm just a psycho. hahah

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John
05/01/2011 16:16

Pat,

I am curious as to whether you include a large intake of carbs PWO. The consensus being that glycogen replenishment is essential to becoming anabolic etc.

Do you include some simple/normal carbs immediately after training?

Thanks

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Pat
05/06/2011 14:21

Deanna - You are nuts:P You are looking great and kicking ass so keep it up!

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Pat
05/06/2011 14:23

John, for an athlete and/or somebody who is looking to maximize performance as a primary goal as opposed to weight loss, then yes, I would recommend either taking some waxy maize or vitargo post workout to replenish muscle glycogen. I will put a post up shortly about this, but for sheer weight/fat loss, no I would not recommend swallowing a bunch of carbs post workout

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madelaine
07/13/2011 05:35

Hi Pat,

I am an absolute believer in ketogenic diet.

I have started the ketogenic diet recently and am also training weight training quite hard(push 4 sets to failure each) to tone, firm up and get more leaner.


My experience with Ketosis have been only light headaches and an airhead feeling. I've never been on high/refined carbs before starting ketogenic eating plan and even so I am feeling better than on my low GI eating plan I was before - that should count for something. great and excellent.


I have a question for you: how safe is Almond butter to keep me in ketosis - i like to eat almond butter when the biltong gets boring and also too much protein can secrete insulin too - fats are safer to eat too much on.

thanks,


Madelaine

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Joe
07/29/2011 09:32

hi, I have been in ketosis for 8 days and had a binge on 2 marshmallows 2 pieces of yorkie chocolate and 3 chocolate digestive biscuits! Then straight back on the diet. Will I have ruined my state of ketosis and if so being strict no carbs then how long to get back in to ketosis. Many thanks

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Dmitry Sychov
11/11/2011 21:12

Carbs vs "six pack abs" =)

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Janelle
01/22/2012 03:40

Hi Pat,

Love all your kbell stuff in our LinkedIn group. Keep it coming! Two questions (as I have done ketosis before and been quite successful with it, thinking about giving it another go around)

1. Do you do anything to supplement vitamins an minerals? Curious if you feel it is necessary or if one eats clean like yourself they can get all they need through their food.

2. Do you do binge and fast days? Read the other post about 6 Pack abs and was curious if you applied this to your eating as well.

Thanks!

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Pat Flynn
01/24/2012 02:19

Hey Everyone,

AMazing to see this post is still getting comments and attention for it's relative age. I'll do my best to answer all I can.

Janelle, I believe if you eat both low carb and clean (as organic and minimally processed as possible) then you will get all you need. I recently had a full physical and blood work performed to confirm this. Hormones (especially testosterone) levels, even to my doctors surprise, were off the charts excellent, and by the end of the appointment my Doc conceded and deemed me the "perfect picture of health".

2. I have applied both full Ketosis as well as my binge and purge protocol. While in full ketosis I was about 1 to 2 percent leaner (as low as four percent body fat). On the binge and purge I float between six to eight percent. But here's the major difference - With the binge and purge lifestyle I am not only to stay incredibly lean, but I am also able to have a social life as well! I still will argue that nothing will lean you out like maintaining a ketogenic state, but it requires an incredible amount of discipline, self-control, and sacrifice.

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Jeff
02/13/2012 15:58

Pat,

Long time fan of yours. After having tried it, I like your style of deadlifting better. Who knows, that might eventually change.

Everyone knows that eating fruits and vegetables is necessary to be healthy, right? (Being sarcastic here, so bear with me) But, seriously, how do you get past this common belief? I see that you eat vegetables, but how can you give up fruit, which is supposed to be full of vitamins and minerals to keep you healthy?

Next question, how do you get enough fiber to keep your colon working properly? There is nothing like being constipated to slow you down.

What do you eat for breakfast and lunch? If you eat meat, or bacon and eggs for breakfast, do you feel weighed down and tired while your body digests such a heavy meal first thing in the morning? It seems like filling your stomach with a high fat breakfast would make you feel sluggish first thing in the morning.

How do you feel about drinking coffee? OK or not?

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Jeff
02/13/2012 16:15

Maybe you could also describe what you mean by binge and purge, and how you apply it. If you lose your ketogenic state after having been in it, how long does it take to get back in it and do you feel bad while making the transition again?

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